Personal plans for the financial crisis?

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Personal plans for the financial crisis?

What are you thinking about this current/coming financial crisis?   Fear, excitement, renewed interest in eschatology?  Personally, I'm seeing a number of these thoughts and feelings, but ultimately it seems a bit unreal.  Anger too -- when I hear the presidential candidates planning to make things worse.  My political frustration has become overwhelming to the point that I have to try to ignore it.  Where I thought I was generally a fairly happy person, my paying attention to the Washington crooks has led me to a great deal of sadness, frustration, and anger -- mostly because I see how people like myself are being duped, and I believe they could "get it" if only they realized they were being duped.

So, with the politics of the matter aside, I start thinking about what this crisis might mean to myself and my family.  In short, I don't know -- but I feel an uneasy and perhaps giddy anticipation that this could be the end of the world as we know it.  Of course this thought is tempered by the realization that many people have thought this before and been wrong.  But isn't it better to think it and be wrong than to not be prepared when the worst hits?

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a little humor anyone

I probably should be taking all this a bit more seriously but I have to admit I find all this quite intriguing. Although I may change my tune when my kids want to move back into our house. But one day at a time, right. For some humorus commentary on the subject click here.

 

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Joseph had a plan!!!

I do believe we should take the current financial crisis seriously.  I think Mathew 24:42-44 gives instructions for us to be on the lookout for the return of the Lord.  I personally believe we may very well be headed for the worst financial crisis/marshal law/collapse of the United States.  I hope that God will give us more time to work for his Kingdom.  When Joseph saw the 7 years of famine coming he made a plan.  I think as God's people we should also have a plan.  Here is how I would envision this plan.

Step 1.

Humble yourself before God.  Ask God to empty you of all things that are not of him.

Step 2.

Ask God to show you what you should do to prepare fore the times ahead.

Step 3.

Have some extra food, water, and supplies to survive for at least a month

Step 4

Use your time wisely in working to warn and seeking to save the lost

These are just some basic thoughts.  As fellow believers I think it is time we start discussing the realities of what could potentially happen.  It won't take long if everything collapses for everyone to make a run on the grocery stores and empty the shelves.

The biggest thing to remember is that God did not give us the spirit of fear.  I do believe we should bond together as believers in Christ to support one another.

Nothing in this world is worth missing out on God's Kingdom.  Any other comments?????

 

 

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Well put and excellent

Well put and excellent suggestions! I especially like step 1

Here is an article by William Grigg who has a very interesting perspective on the current situation.

Oh, and I saw this somehere..I think it has a nice ring to it "Hell hates humor in service of truth"

and I might add so does the government

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It really is crazy to

It really is crazy to realize how many things are pointing to a major crisis of some sort.   I, being the skeptic that I am, am not going to run around claiming the world is coming to an end.  I am sure that many people thought this during WWII.  But I will say that I believe that there are some major changes coming in the world.  The world as we know it cannot last much longer.   Here is a excerpt from my journal from a few weeks ago - before Lehman Brothers and AIG happened. 

"The headlines on NPR last night were a bit ominous.  Bolivia kicked out the US abassador, the US kicks out Bolivia's ambassador.  Venesuela kicks out the US ambassador to show support for Bolivia.  Russia performs military drills with Venesuela in the Carribean.  And Sara Palin says that war with Russia is an option.   On top of that I was listening to a sermon by David Gates yesterday in which he feels strongly that the US economy is going to colaps in a matter of months.  Aparently a few months ago he said he thought something was going to happen in September.  Well, it's September."

So, what do we do?  I think the reality is there is nothing we can do.  What will come will come.  We have to trust God to get us through.  Ellen White says that stockpiling goods will be of no use, only God can supply our needs. 

The Lord has shown me repeatedly that it is contrary to the Bible to make any provision for our temporal wants in the time of trouble. I saw that if the saints had food laid up by them or in the field in the time of trouble, when sword, famine, and pestilence are in the land, it would be taken from them by violent hands, and strangers would reap their fields.
     Then will be the time for us to trust wholly in God, and He will sustain us. I saw that our bread and water will be sure at that time, and that we shall not lack or suffer hunger, for God is able to spread a table for us in the wilderness. If necessary He would send ravens to feed us, as He did to feed Elijah, or rain manna from heaven, as He did for the Israelites. --Early Writings p.56 (1851).

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Good Point

Adam you are correct that when the time of trouble comes if you are not in tune with God you will have no hope.  It is just like people trying to save up gold when they bible says:
James 5:3
3 Your gold and silver is cankered; and the rust of them shall be a witness against you, and shall eat your flesh as it were fire. Ye have heaped treasure together for the last days.
I do agree with you that God will make your food sure.  I hope I did not give the impression that a person could stock up enough food to deliver them in the great tribulation (aka Time of Trouble).  What this really boils down to is this.



Micah 7:7
7 Therefore I will look unto the LORD; I will wait for the God of my salvation: my God will hear me.


God must be the one directing your paths.  The sad fact is that some of us are asleep and need to wake up.  Fully trusting in God is the end result of absolute surrender.  I myself do not feel I am there, but I have confidence that God will get me there.  I would encourage everyone to seek God with everything you have.  Don't do this just to make your life better, but because HE IS WORTH IT!!!  Their was a time when Isaiah recognized a lack of desire from the people for the things of God when he said:


Isa 64:7
7 And there is none that calleth upon thy name, that stirreth up himself to take hold of thee: for thou hast hid thy face from us, and hast consumed us, because of our iniquities.

The good news is what Isaiah says next:


Isa 64:8
8 But now, O LORD, thou art our father; we are the clay, and thou our potter; and we all are the work of thy hand.

God wants to mold us into a Holy remnant that is completely sold out to him.  What better confidence to have than to know God will do anything to prepare you to stand confident in Him.  May we receive the peace God has given. 

 

 

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I have thought a lot about

I have thought a lot about Christ's warning not to "store up for yourselves treasure on earth" and wondered how it applies to this situation.  If we're looking at the last days, then we shouldn't store up, but if we're looking at just another depression, then prehaps we should.  What is a wise person to do?

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I'm taking fcox3rd"s advice

I'm taking fcox3rd"s advice and putting back supplies to last at least a month. It looks like I'm not the only one. When I went to walmart yesterday to buy rice and beans there wasn't much left on the shelf. May not mean anything, but I'm just saying. They had a good supply of ammo though.

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So your stocking up on

So your stocking up on ammo!? :)  While I'm not doing that, I do have a big pile of rocks I can use to fend off the goons if necessary. :)

In all seriousness, I think I agree with fcos3rd's as well.  It seems that a wise person will plan ahead, but at the same time we cannot expect to insulate ourselves from what will happen.  In the long run, we are dependent on God.

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Oh, the ammo is for hunting




Oh, the ammo is for hunting for food, which I will gladly share with the goons as long as it holds out. Not sure how much good the rocks will do though.

We are always dependent on God, but I don't believe that we should ignore the resourses God has given us.

I do agree with Adam though when he said "So, what do we do?  I think the reality is there is nothing we can do.  What will come will come.  We have to trust God to get us through."

"Ellen White says that stockpiling goods will be of no use, only God can supply our needs".

With all do respect to Ellen White, while I  agree with her occasionally, I am not going to base my future plans on her ramblings.

 

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Hmm.  Kevin gave me a

Hmm.  Kevin gave me a compound bow and some arrows; perhaps I should be brushing up on my "bow hunting skills."

Also, maybe we should go ahead and paint some signs: "Free deer meat for Goons"

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I have a great idea!!!!

Why don't we get together and pray and ask God what he would have us to do.   Maybe a overnight camping trip???  Bibles and Prayer only???

I know God is not the author of confusion, but these days when I look at Washington, Russia, Iran, North Korea etc.... things look confusing.  I believe God is looking for people to seek his guidence.

This is just an idea.  Anyone feel the same???

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I'm up for prayer and bible

I'm up for prayer and bible study, although I might want to bring some food and a tent too. :)

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The sooner the better.

Lets talk about it and get together soon.

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Pick a time.  I'll join you.

Pick a time.  I'll join you.

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Next 2-3 weeks?

How about a camping Trip or a late night campfire?

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